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Episode 140: When the Solution Becomes the Problem: with Dr. Michael Barnes

In this episode, Chris Burns welcomes special guest and industry leader Dr. Mike Barnes onto the show to share his impressive and exceptional knowledge on trauma, shame, parallel recovery, and so much more! From distinguishing between what you say and what you mean to discussing how you quantify success, Dr. Barnes and Chris engage in a riveting conversation that addresses so many vital topics in today’s world. Thank you, Dr. Barnes, for joining us in such an authentic conversation. For more information on Dr. Barnes, check out drmikebarnes.com.

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