Episode 48

Therapeutic Lifestyle Change: A Treatment For Depression

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In this episode, we talk with the well-known Dr. Stephen Ilardi, Ph.D. about his clinical research in developing the Therapeutic Lifestyle Change (TLC) treatment protocol. It is based on several modifiable lifestyle factors (e.g., physical activity, omega-3 intake, light exposure, social connection) which have demonstrated antidepressant benefits.

Talking Points

  1. Dr. Stephen Ilardi opens up about the decision behind the title of his book, “The Depression Cure: The 6-Step Program to Beat Depression without Drugs”
  2. How modern lifestyle plays a role in depression
  3. What is rumination?
  4. The importance of community 
  5. The effects of depression
  6. Dr. Ilardi’s protocol


“We were never designed for the sedentary, indoor, sleep-deprived, socially-isolated, fast-food-laden, frenetic pace of modern life.”
– Stephen Ilardi, PhD

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